I just saw a picture of one of those mosaic Syrians. It was Dove with a Black splash on its side. Funny thing is, it doesn't look like there was Cinnamon in...
Jan Blakkan
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Apr 17, 2000 5:01 pm
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This look like a very interesting case of something new or very unxepected. When looking at the pedigree, then the male Buster seems the most interesting as...
Kenneth Rene Worm
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Apr 18, 2000 12:29 pm
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On a few of the Swedish sites, I've noticed references to Syrian genes that I know nothing about. They list Jute (jj) which I know exists but I thought it was...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 12:30 pm
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They are all documented genes, but only exist in labs. Kenneth...
Kenneth Rene Worm
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Apr 18, 2000 12:31 pm
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Kenneth, You need to know that when Celeste says chocolate, it has nothing to do with Rust. This is something I've had to sort out with lots of people in this...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 12:45 pm
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In a message dated 4/18/00 8:32:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kwo@... ... Do you know where I could get descriptions of the phenotypes? I know that ...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 12:50 pm
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About the wide banded. I'm at work now, so don't have any literature here, but will look when I get home. What is the exact nature of it? You said recessive,...
Kenneth Rene Worm
kwo@...
Apr 18, 2000 12:52 pm
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I'll write them to the list later today. Kenneth...
Kenneth Rene Worm
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Apr 18, 2000 12:52 pm
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In a message dated 4/18/00 8:53:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kwo@... ... Recessive, breeds true when homozygous. No change in color, only the addition of...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 1:03 pm
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In a message dated 4/18/00 8:53:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kwo@... ... Thanks. That would be great. Jan...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 1:03 pm
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One colour that springs to mind is something like the siamese in cats in some form, that is colour near or on the head and tail. How are the feet, white or...
Kenneth Rene Worm
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Apr 18, 2000 1:12 pm
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In a message dated 4/18/00 9:13:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kwo@... ... White, everywhere snow white except face and around the rump. Jan...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 2:19 pm
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In a message dated 4/18/00 9:13:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kwo@... ... not ... Very interesting. Yes, I recall reading about those c-locus genes in cats...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 2:34 pm
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Hi Here are the phenotypes of a number of mutations that exist in labs only (as far as is known). Juvenile gray - symbol jg (recessive): In this mutation the...
Kenneth
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Apr 18, 2000 4:44 pm
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Hi Kenneth, I just realized that my "dirty white" with an unknown genotype (I'm guessing Light Grey Roan which I know isn't supposed to happen but nothing else...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 6:12 pm
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Kenneth, I went back to cat genetics and copied some of it. In bold are 2 sections I found interesting. The first seems similar to Ds in Syrians, the second...
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 6:30 pm
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By the way, in Celeste's litter the other 3 hamsters (besides the Dove with the patch) were Sable, White (can't tell yet if DEW or FEW) and Red Eyed Cream....
TheRiverRd@...
Apr 18, 2000 7:34 pm
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... genes in cats in ... Do you have the URL to this site? It's always interesting to look at the genetics in other species. ... this little ... If none of...
Kenneth
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Apr 18, 2000 8:35 pm
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Hi Jan Unfortunately, the bold parts did not show on my computer, but I guess the van pattern of cats is exactly like your wide band apart from the fact that...
Kenneth
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Apr 18, 2000 8:35 pm
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... in my lines, ... since they have ... Wide Banded. ... these are ... In Syrians, the gene W has been used in 1954 to symbolise mottled white, but this has...
Kenneth
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Apr 18, 2000 8:46 pm
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I was a bit to quick there. I recently removed them from my folder on hamster genetics to use them somewhere else and seem to have misplaced them. But I'll get...
Kenneth
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Apr 18, 2000 8:49 pm
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... The colour is not that unexpected, since Cinnamon can be carried for many generations without showing up. That is why we here in Holland call it the ...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... I ... it ... (tt) ... Jute exist only in labs untill now. I have tried to contact UC at Berkely, but I didn't came far (they are sure to have them). Jute...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... commercial ... find ... the ... My friend didn't have black spots on his hamsters. He had Black hamsters with suddenly orangy spots on them. Not like the...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... these ... So ... Jute: Jj Tawny: x-T_ Frost: ff Juvenile Grey is unknown to me, so that is the only one I can't give you. Ingeborg...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... not ... When it is the Himalayan-gene (the gene [ch] that is responsible for the siamese and Himalayan markings in both cats and rats), then the...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... That rules out the himalyan-gene. Otherwise the points (feet, ears, face, tail) would be coloured. Ingeborg...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... the ... that ... referring ... cats ... Almost every breed has a dilute-gene (d). In horses it produces the Palomino for instance, and in cats and rats it...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... guessing ... fits) ... is ... genes ... am curious as well Jan, so keep us informed. Even though I don't have that much time to answer right now, I will...
INGEBORG
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Apr 18, 2000 9:43 pm
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... I ... The first could also fit for Pinto as for DS as well, but it is certainly interesting. Maybe you should make a cross of wide banded to DS, but I...
