Awww.. thank you, and a Merry Christmas to all.
I consider myself a "member" as well as my moderator hat, since I have a cat and
love cats too. :)

-kirstie

--- In domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com, amelia blass <amalhb2001@...> wrote:
>
>
> **correction**
>> .
> MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU PAUL ,ALL MEMBERS OF THIS
WONDERFUL LIST, and Kirstie_ MO
>  
>

I had gotten comfortable on the couch, ready to do a bit of
reading.  I've been going through some things packed away in the
apartment and had placed a few boxes at the end of the couch.  A
fleece throw had ended up on the box, and of course, Buddy decided
that was his new bed.  This was well over a month ago.  While
reading, I heard a purr so loud it was a rattle.  I looked up (I was
lying down on the couch) and I could see Buddy's head, from the eyes
up, looking at me over the edge of the box.  Those blue eyes were 3/4
closed and looking quite happy.  Grinning, I reached up to pet him,
and he rolled over, belly up, so I reached to scratch his
belly.  Four paws with claws extended pushed my hand away.  Then very
gently the claws on the front paws gripped my hand and placed it on
his neck.  He knew where he wanted his petting.
Ann in Arkansas

Whoosh, that certainly piles it on.  I'm flattered, of course, but very doubtful
whether it's justified.  You do know my triggers though.  Internet connections
don't always allow a timely response to any message, and I also think before I
write and send, both of which can cause a delay.

Mike Harris
Enslaved servant giving Christmas belly rubs to the Evil Overlords Maggie,
Blackie and Pushy
in Seattle WA




----- Original Message ----
From: SALTY <saltypawscapecod@...>
To: domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 8:56:35 AM
Subject: [domoreforcats] Re: Boiled chicken vs. microwave...

Yo Yo, gobsmacked one!  Been waitin' on your input...was on the verge of sending
you personal e pertaining to the Boiled vs. MW query but figured I'd give you a
coupla more days as I suspected you'd show up.
Anyway...glad to have read, as always, your non-lunatic fringe thoughts 'n
facts.  Thanx again, Mikey...I always feel a subject matter isn't complete til
it is addressed by the Enslaved Servant of Seattle's Three Top Hotties...Maggie,
Blackie, and Pushy.

Rose of the Eve before Christmas Eve Orlando...
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--- In domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com, Mike Harris <harriswillys@...> wrote:
>
> All right, I'm gobsmacked.  I had no idea that this particular lunatic fringe
existed, although I suppose I'm not surprised.  Please forgive me, Carol, but
when you're citing sources such as the Daily Green and Alkalize for Health,
you're probably not coming up with the most rigorously researched citations. 
Even so, their condemnations are rather pedestrian.

> Mike Harris
> Maggie, Blackie and Pushy
> Seattle WA
>




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Young indeed, twenty or so, rather tallish, strawberry blonde and with dimples. 
In any case, she is a cat lover which redeems her regardless of her opinion on
companions for dinner dates.



----- Original Message ----
From: SALTY <saltypawscapecod@...>
To: domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 9:00:57 AM
Subject: [domoreforcats] Re: was Boiled chicken vs. microwave now water
poisoning

OH, BRUTHA!!
Doubt the 'young' lady had a lapse of memory due to anything and...would not
hold your breath waiting for a next time.
DUH and LOL...

I don't even use a carrier any more.  I use a harness when I take the
cats to a vet or Sweetie to the chiropractor.  Yes, my chiropractor
also works on animals--cats, dogs, and horses.  Sweetie had messed up
her back near her hips when she jumped off a fence and a hind leg
caught between 2 boards.  This was 7 years before I found out this
chiropractor also had the certification to work on animals.  She was
purring at full volume when awake for 4 days, I could hear her from
across the room.  Then the purr dropped in volume when she just did
too much, the muscles are not used to doing what they were now
doing.  How well I remember my day of that, too.
Anyway, Sweetie just does a token protest of getting in the harness
because Sweetie likes the way the chiropractor pets her.  She has
also completely charmmed him with her personality.  He has cats at
home, but he has remarked on her personality more than
once.  Favorably, too, I might add.
Ann in Arkansas

It is possible to develop an allergy at any time.  I have always had cats.  My
sister is allergic to cats but had no trouble until she moved out on her own.
Now, when she visits, she is bothered by severe symptoms.  My allergist says
it's because she was "used" to the cats but now she is not in constant contact
so they affect her. Having a period of time without an allergen and then being
exposed can produce symptoms, sometimes severe.  I don't know if you would
experience symptoms if you got a new cat.

The length of the coat ususally does not affect allergies as it is the dander
that you react to.  All cats have dander. Some produce more than others but it
is there.

Also, it is possible that you are allergic to something else the cats are around
or that is in the house you visited.  It's so hard to say. Have you considered
being tested for a cat allergy?  That might help you get some answers. Just a
thought...




--- In domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com, "spiritgumm" <spiritgumm@...> wrote:
>
> I've had three shorthaired cats for several years (though only two at a time).
Then just one cat for the last 1.5 years. And now cat-free for a month. I was
thinking of adopting another cat or two. I was at someone's house with 2 older
longhaired cats (both with lion shave) for about 30-45 minutes. They're up for
adoption because the owner and baby are allergic (and home too chaotic for
cats). When I left, I noticed a welt on my forehead. Went away after an hour. Is
it possible to be allergic to some cats but not others? Does furlength have
> anything to do with it? Since I wasn't really sensitive before, and assuming
it was from the cats, might it be a passing thing?
>

Hi Sharon,
I am very sorry for your loss of Dino. We have lost three cats in the past 5
years and it was so hard on me, broke my heart each time and we will always
remember them and keep a special place in our hearts for each and every one of
our feline babies..You gave him love, and a good home and took good care of him
when he needed help, so feel good about that. I also believe we will see them in
Heaven! They are blessings to us, why wouldn't we have them there with us to
live in a beautiful, peaceful place without pain and suffering?

Take Care, and cry when you need to... it helps you heal!

Lynn in IL

--- In domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com, Sharon Hendricks <harrypotterfan1972@...>
wrote:
>
> Poor Dino was having trouble breathing very early yesterday morning and we
took
>  him to the vet at 9:30.  The vet said he had fluid in his lungs and gave
> him  a steroid shot and antibiotics, and he gave him some fluids because he
> was dehydrated. I laid down to take a nap because I had only had an hour or
> so sleep. When I woke up and went downstairs, Nana was crying and said that
> Dino had just died.  He didn't suffer. Just gave a little gasp and died.
>
> Alan buried him today under the tree right next to his buddy Buff, who has
> been gone 5 years now.  Please pray for our family during this time and all
> our furry children, who are missing him as well.
>
> Sharon
>

Interesting example of a possible zoonose, though the likelihood seems small. 
Seven possible cases?  As with human H1N1 infection, I'm taking my chances.

As to NYT, the Gray Lady's editorial board has rather tarnished her image of
late and I no longer consider her the most reliable source.

For example, they published an article not long ago that said washing hands and
using sanitizers is probably useless against H1N1 influenza, which they say is
mostly transmitted via the airborne route.  True?  False?  Who can tell with
NYT's single-source policy nowadays?  Ask Dan Rather about that.

Not to say that washing hands isn't a good idea in general.  Running around with
hair afire due to a NYT article almost certainly isn't.

Mike Harris
Maggie, Blackie and Pushy
Swine-flu free in Seattle WA



----- Original Message ----
From: j_oreily94941 <bste@...>
To: domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 7:29:44 AM
Subject: [domoreforcats] Cats can contract H1N1 from humans  and die

This is a link to the Association of Veterinary Medicine regarding the
transmission of H1N1 from people to cats, and treatment when cats contract H1N1:

http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/new_flu_virus_faq_veterina\
rians.asp

It says that the supply of antiviral meds for fighting the disease once a cat
has contracted H1N1 is being guarded for use in humans, so I going to be extra
careful about exposure of my pets to people right now, as some cats have died.

An article in the NY Times a month or two ago said the H1N1 virus can live for a
couple of days on objects touched by someone with the H1N1 virus, like door,
shopping carts, etc., so wash hands, and carry a disinfectant to sanitize hands
frequently.

Barb - Smokey, Shulie and Terra's mom and Purrfect Fence person



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I'll have to try that move.  I'm not sure once I put his hind legs in while
holding them, I could get my arm out past his fat belly.  LOL  Videos of
cats being put in carriers could be pretty hilarious.
Suz


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From: domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:domoreforcats@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Garner


That's Dora when I'm trying to put her in the carrier, too. The
trick I have found worked for me is to hold both front legs in one
hand, both back legs in the other hand, and put her in, rear first
and place her on her side. I let go of the hind legs, then slam the
door as I jerk my other hand out. She didn't have time to get up and
out before the carrier was closed.
Ann in Arkansas

Here's a little trick for loading a cat in a carrier (one person style). Throw a
thin towel on the floor the night before. Maybe put a bit of catnip in it. You
can play with the cat a little bit by tossing it over it's head so it can play
underneath.

The next day, do the same, then roll the cat tighter in the towel wo he can't
get out. He can't see the carrier plus his claws are stashed away. Then put him
in. You can leave the towel inside with him. Works for me.

Paul

Hi Luiz,

No she has another cat slightly older and yes he is neutered


Linda

--- On Tue, 22/12/09, Luiz Fontenelle <luiz.aucar@...> wrote:
       Hi Linda,

Is he the only cat in the house?
Is he neutered?

Maybe he is sick and you should seek a vet?
 “Attitudes are contagious. Is yours worth catching?
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From: domoreforcats@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:domoreforcats@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of rny685@...

why would a outside cat leave his tongue hanging out part of the time.
seems to be in great shape , a few years old. i feed him & give him fresh
water every single day ---twice a day . none of the other cats do that. he
might be the oldest. bob

Give original Dawn a try.  It is gentle enough for kittens and is used for
removing oil sludge from seals and other unfortunate creature victims of oil
spills.  You might try olive oil  - rubbing it thoroughly into the skin for
help in the bare areas.

She may be allergic to fleas or have mites.  The Dawn is good to get rid of
the fleas.  Mites need medication.  Check out these catalogs:  Dr.'s Foster
and Smith, Pigeon Supply Store and there is another one I can't think of
now that someone else recomended on the group for some mite medicine.  There
might be a kit in these cataloges where you can send a skin scraping sample
(like a Q-Tip) directly to a lab and see what you find out.  Hope you and
kitty will be on the way to quick relief soon!
 
Trinidad Ramirez

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From: john mcmahon <mrxflat@...>
 
i shoud say also, again my cat was harmed, had stab wonds and missing half her
teeth, i can massage rub her coat and in some spots it like i hit a swerat spot
she will arch her head back like it feels real good are its sending her lopey i
dont know, and sometimes she will just walk into a wall like she distracted, the
lower half od her is missing alot of fur, caue she gnaws and doesnt groom good
like  other cats.if i dont comb her and dont know give her shampoo baths
witrhing a month her lower belly but aread is pinkish and lots and lots of
scratched scabs sore spots, i have to help her.( i have been to the vet twice ,
two dif vets in the same one town one clinic )spent hundreds of dollars for over
price shampoo that stunk and my cat hated ut and the other cats would snarl and
swipe at her when i bathed her with it, i also check ingreditents and found i
could buy the exact same at online  for 18 dollars not 97 dollars like the vet
charged..

Albert, you are modest to boot..
I stand corrected.. 99.9% made of the same stuff of angels.
What you do with helping animals especially, feeding and giving
comfort to otherwise scared cat displaces darkness with healing light.
 
love and hugs and JOYOUS *holy*day

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amelia,
 
thanks for your kind words, though, despite what i try to do for various
animals, i wouldn't consider myself an angel.
 
thanks again, and you have a merry christmas, too.
 
mike.
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