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Jerking, pushiness, pg 346-347   Message List  
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Re: Jerking, pushiness, pg 346-347

--- In BillsBook@yahoogroups.com, Russ Burns <burnsranch@...> wrote:
>
> "Pressure:

> Maybe you could say "excess of pressure" because that is what any of it is
> where it concerns a horse. What we're in hopes of is that people will want
> to learn about feel, and how to apply it in a way that a horse can
> understand it, and that word pressure has no part of that. Firmness with
> your better judgment has a place in some cases, and it all depends on so
> many variables as to how you would go about applying that firmness." PP346
>

This was a really great posting that I appreciated so much. For over a year I
have been working on re-educating a pony who has been nothing but dragged,
pushed, pulled, and whacked. I don't like the "pony stereotype", and think it
comes from people being even rougher and more thoughtless with them than with
full-sized horses because they can, because of their size.

I would like to comment on what constitutes "pressure". So many people are
starting to talk about "improving feel" - but they still wave flags around,
stare at one part of the horse's body to move it, swing halter ropes around, and
turn their horses into fences. Petting the face, blocking vision, and so many
other little ways of crowding horses we're no longer aware of is a lot of
pressure, and our emotions put pressure on the horses as well.

The fences are a big one. Of course most of us only have arenas and wooded
trails to ride in, so we get done as much as we can, but I recently moved from a
barn where the rut along the rail had to be constantly repaired because of the
endless circles people were riding along the fence. I have had the great
pleasure of moving to a farm with 200 acres of open fields perfect for riding
in. I have been able to work with so much more than I ever have before, having
grown up riding in a heavily forested region.

Following a clinic with Leslie last spring, I've really been working on
improving the feel of my seat through turns. Now that I don't have to turn my
horse because of the fence, I finally can feel so much more than I did and now I
understand some of her instructions better. It has been interesting to
periodically return to the arena, and to feel just how much the fence influences
my horse's responses.

I've also been working with some ponies who, in typical pony fashion, have been
nothing but pushed, pulled, yanked on, and whacked - because people could,
because they are little. Kind of like the kids that were mentioned. Working
with an unruly pony in the middle of an unfenced hay field has given me all
sorts of things to think about regarding feel - as well as a diconcerting
reminder of how much pressure I still fall back on.

Pam



Pam




Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:12 pm

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... Just the other day I was asked to hold a horse for a young lady. The mare was very pushy and fussy and jerking on the lead, even bumping me with her head....
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... I have two horses like this. Leslie says in her audio book (sorry, don't know which disc or track!) that pulling teaches horses about pulling, and I can...
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Hi Janie, just been reading your post and have some thoughts on the subject that I would like to share. First thought is that you shouldn't feel "bad" for...
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... Janie, when this has happened to me I'll work my gelding on the ground, getting him soft and relaxed and maintaining a float in the lead rope. After he...
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... Hello All, I am new to the list and I hope I am not being pushy myself. I have handled some pretty pushy horses. I am in the process of re-reading THTF....
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... i have a horse, fox, honestly, if someone else had him he would be a wild renegade and have to be put down i bet. because if you manhandle or force him or...
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Janice, you answered your own question. You do as little as it takes and try to do as little as possible anyway. Perhaps with a deft change of subject and...
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... Please, this is my interpretation of what I am reading. I certainly don't know as much as Bill did. I, like you, am just trying to learn and apply. I...
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As I get older I realize that the mistakes I make, seem to be more my fault for not paying attention to the horse. If the horse is getting anxious, I try to...
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"Pressure: This is what we are trying to get away from, so we might not mention it. Maybe you could say "excess of pressure" because that is what any of it is ...
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... This was a really great posting that I appreciated so much. For over a year I have been working on re-educating a pony who has been nothing but dragged,...
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A poster asked for some details, which I had written earlier, but decided not to post. I try to let the principals guide my details and if you are working with...
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... Hi Russ You mentioned searching for a way to take out the brace in one particular horse when the lead rope goes tight. Something struck me as I read your...
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